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所跟贴 我对党派宣传无兴趣,请看我在楼下转贴的诺奖得主Stiglitz 的文章,这祸是格林斯潘闯出来的,他不相信政府调节, -- 芦笛 - (325 Byte) 2008-10-03 周五, 下午9:35 (308 reads)
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文章标题: “压低利率,极其宽松的贷款政策”是“新自由主义”的主张?! (507 reads)      时间: 2008-10-03 周五, 下午11:07

作者:猞猁驴鸣镇 发贴, 来自 http://www.hjclub.org

我引的材料有时间有细节有明确的出处, 2004年那本是AEI今年才伪造的? 2005年的投票结果你也“不知道是真是假”? 1999年纽约时报的文章也是该左倾报纸收了共和党的钱、今天追加在网站上的?难道他们想给AEI增光?

这是当时参院银行委员会民主党领袖明确反对S-190法案的声明

UPI当年的报道

07年,民主党掌握参院后发表的报告,自己承认当初是他们单方面反对S-190


引用:
July 28-Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, then chaired by Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL), passed S. 190 out of Committee. The bill was passed by a party-line vote of 11-10. The bill did not reach the Senate floor for a vote.

你这位同志的脑袋似乎天然就是让人占领的,一旦定式形成(例如凯恩斯主义比奥地利经济学高明;胡弗总统严格按自由市场原则办事、绝没有大办公共工程或者高于市场价收购农产品。。。)便专门挑那种迎合你固有定式的宣传看,从来不会怀疑自己是否错了,看到的东西是否可信,有无偏见,绝了。

美国打伊拉克如果违反联合国宪章, 那么此前十年的禁飞区就同样违反联合国宪章, 不然伊拉克就是先动手而美军有权自卫(self-defense),你连这个都想不明白,真够脑残的。

关于“弗里德曼”的部分这里已经回了,不再重复。(能把“压低利率,极其宽松的贷款政策”说成是“新自由主义”的主张,真是蠢得惊天地泣鬼神了。)


引用:
Our own Federal Reserve, consistent with Keynes, continues to follow an expansionist policy. High interest rates are considered bad for business. Bankers and businessmen are eager for "easy money," fostered by artificially low interest rates to spur business activity. People do not realize that non-manipulated market interest rates have an important role to play.

Bettina Bien Greaves March 1990

另外,可以看看弗里德曼在911后的这篇专访。再加上这个

弗里德曼的专访着重看以下选段

引用:
Milton Friedman: That's right. I would also go on to say--I--I don't change my lo--my fundamental belief. I believe we all would be better off if there had been no Fed at all but simply a computer that was grinding out a st--steady, regular increase in the amount of money…

Peter Robinson: But then how would…

Milton Friedman: …all along.

Peter Robinson: …you have handled a crisis like September 11th in that case.

Milton Friedman: I wouldn't try to handle it by--at all. Let the economy handle it. The economy will do most of the handling of it. The notion that government has to step in and handle it is a mistake because when government tries to step in and handle it, it's about as likely to make it worse as better. That's what it did in '29, the thirties. That's what it did in the twenties. That's what it--and--and after all, the Fed helped promote the bull market in the nineties by its reaction to the East Asian problems.

Peter Robinson: Right.

Milton Friedman: So, in my opinion, if you would have had nothing but a computer grinding out a steady rate of increase in the quantity of money, at something like five percent a year…

Peter Robinson: And announced to everybody…

Milton Friedman: Everybody knows it. That's what ever--you would have been--you would have had less of an upturn in the nineties, you would have less of a problem now.

其实, 只要读读弗里德曼与赵紫阳1988年会谈的内容, 就不可能以为他赞成政府(中央银行)滥发信贷、或者人民对储蓄缺乏积极性是什么好现象(恰恰凯恩斯才这样认为)。


Two Lucky People: Memoirs

1974年, 诺贝尔奖委员会对哈耶克贡献的描述

引用:
von Hayek's contributions in the field of economic theory are both profound and original. His scientific books and articles in the twenties and thirties aroused widespread and lively debate. Particularly, his theory of business cycles and his conception of the effects of monetary and credit policies attracted attention and evoked animated discussion. He tried to penetrate more deeply into the business cycle mechanism than was usual at that time. Perhaps, partly due to this more profound analysis, he was one of the few economists who gave warning of the possibility of a major economic crisis before the great crash came in the autumn of 1929.

至于上次芦无理谩骂的事,闹半天他还在等我“道歉”,简直是脑残极品了。我早就在这里回了你那篇白痴文字。


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