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作者：xilihutu 在 驴鸣镇 发贴, 来自 http://www.hjclub.org
Here is the Problem with Obama's Birth Certificate..... Kenya was not so named until December 1963!!! It was British East Africa Protectorate - Also Hospital name Was not that name until 1978!!!!!!
糊塗譯：
歐巴馬的出生證仍然有問題：
肯亞（Kenya) 是在1963年12才命名的，以前叫“英屬東非領地”，另外那醫院的名字1978年前其實不是那名字!!!!!!"
全文：http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2011/04/here-is-problem-with-obamas-birth.html
The Obama Birth certificate has a slight problem, though MSM will never say so. In fact they will now say "Let's put this to rest, he has proven he was born in Hawaii".
BUT there is 2 GLARING PROBLEMS with the Birth certificate.
Obama was born in August 1961. His birth certificate has his father being born in Kenya - the birth certificate released today (April 27th 2011) is linked below.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/longformbirthcertificate.pdf
The father is listed as Kenyan born.
Well.......
The name of the country BEFORE it was named Kenya in 1963 after Jomo Kenyatta was
British East Africa Protectorate
The name Kenya did not come into play until 1963.... So how could it be in 1961 on a birth certificate a place of birth is listed as Kenya before it was even a country named Kenya???
I have not been an outright "birther" but I DO LIKE TRUTH! The birth certificate has that problem which I consider to be a huge problem!
Here is some information about Kenya and the history of it:
http://glpinc.org/Classroom%20Activities/Kenya%20Articles/Struggle%20for%20Independence.htm
Jomo Kenyatta was born in Gatundu; the year of his birth is uncertain, but most scholars agree he was born in the 1890s. He was born into the Kikuyu ethnic group. Named Kamau wa Ngengi at birth, he later adopted the surname Kenyatta (from the Kikuyu word for a type of beaded belt he wore) and then the first name Jomo. Kenyatta was educated by Presbyterian missionaries and by 1921 had moved to the city of Nairobi. There he became involved in early African protest movements, joining the Kikuyu Central Association (KCA) in 1924.
In 1928 he became editor of the movement's newspaper. In 1929 and 1931 Kenyatta visited England to present KCA demands for the return of African land lost to European settlers and for increased political and economic opportunity for Africans in Kenya, which had become a colony within British East Africa in 1920.
Jomo Kenyatta is revered as the founding father of modern Kenya
Here a debunker that went through the Kenya BC that had come up a couple of years ago. Makes the case perfectly for why the Hawaii birth certificate can't be real. He says what Kenya was called and the fact he was using it against "birthers" at that time.... yet it can be used now:
Edit to note: Kenya is listed as a country, in 1960 on a map, but it was a British Colony and the name Kenya alone was not used - a debunker of "birthers" proves that below.
http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/02/the-latest-birther-fantasy-obamas-fake-kenyan-birth-certificate/
This leads to the second problem with the purported birth certificate. From December 12, 1963 until December 12, 1964, the official title of Kenya was the Dominion of Kenya. It wasn’t until a year later, on December 12, 1964 that the Republic of Kenya came into existence. And yet, the document above, issued on February 17, 1964 purports to have been issued on behalf of the Office of Principal Registrar, Coast Province, Republic of Kenya.
So above a debunker of the fake Kenyan birth certificate has now debunked the latest birth certificate.
BUT the BIGGEST Mistake??????
Considering the name for the hospital listed on the birth certificate listed was not so named until 1978!!!
The name on the hospital of the birth certificate is listed as Kapiolani. But the name of the hospital in 1961 was:
Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapiolani_Medical_Center_for_Women_and_Children
Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.[2][3][4]
So those who forged the birth certificate, well they made some huge mistakes! But I am sure this will never be mentioned in the MSM and even other people running for President will most likely not mention it either! To be labeled a "birther" seems to be a bad name!
But I don't mind being labeled that now - but I would prefer TRUTHER!
So the birth certificate released today can not be real!
Edit to add - Market Ticker has it laid out how it is a fake -
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094
EDIT - another proof it is fake - here is a link to a birth certificate from Hawaii - a lady born Aug 5 1961 - the same month and year as Obama and only 1 day after Obama.
Look at the bottom of her BC - it has a seal and all kinds of info on it that Obama's BC lacks.
Here is a great link, with information from Market Ticker and other places - the dates don't exactly align from what the AP released and the White House released.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/associated-press-involved-in-new-obama.html
http://nocompromisemedia.com/2009/07/28/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates/
Another has found it has layers - video
Posted by Sherrie Questioning All at 1:57 PM
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13 comments:
Moggy said...
Has any one looked closely at the b/c issued from the WH today?
Signature of the Registrar is apparently...
U K La Lee
April 27, 2011 2:57 PM
Sherrie Questioning All said...
Yeah, I got that - the instrument out of Hawaii. The joke is on us.
April 27, 2011 3:02 PM
Anonymous said...
It's always been known as Kenya - even before the independence. I think that the hospital name issue holds more weight. The Kenya African Union political party was formed in 1947, eliminating all doubt about the word Kenya in relation to the territory, which was named after a local mountain.
April 27, 2011 3:54 PM
Anonymous said...
Let me clarify - it's probably not unusual for someone from Kenya to use their name for the country rather than the official British name - especially in a time when they were on the verge of their own independence.
April 27, 2011 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...
Here we go....again. This will really fire up the birthers. Another questionable move by Obama.
April 27, 2011 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...
Note that the linked BC of one of the Nordyke twins lists the same "impossible" name for the hospital as does Obama's BC.
April 27, 2011 6:49 PM
Anonymous said...
The hospital name on the Obama certificate and the one presented as a "real" sample with seals etc. are the same.
April 27, 2011 7:29 PM
Anonymous said...
A look at your own evidence shows it's contradicting itself. You're using Susan's certificate to show that the Obama cert. is a fake, yet they both have the same hospital name that supposedly wasn't named that name until years later. One interesting thing is that the addresses for the same-named hospital don't match between the two certificates. That's a little strange.
April 27, 2011 7:31 PM
Sherrie Questioning All said...
You are right, the hospital is the same.
The address does not match, I have already looked up the address they have listed. It is a house listed for sale. But I have not put that in, because I don't know if that is suppose to be the mothers address or the hospital address. But why isn't there a seal on the bottom of the birth certificate, like Susan's?
So I will have to figure out the hospital point now. Because it says the hospital was a childrens hospital in 1961.
April 27, 2011 7:44 PM
Anonymous said...
I would like to see a color copy of this birth certificate, a black and white does not help with where it came from. I know what an Hawaii birth certificate looks like, do to my youngest being born there. The closes copy of a colored one that I have seen is making it not look like it is from there.
April 27, 2011 8:58 PM
Anonymous said...
This is from 2008, but it's still relevant....
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
April 27, 2011 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...
The same person who signed the date next to Mrs. Nordyke's signature on her certificate, also signed Obama's certificate next to Ann Dunham's name. Clearly the same person signed the dates on both certificates: "8-7-61" on the lower right.
Compare the 2 and there is 100% certainty the same person signed both. Or the forger used the Nordyke certificate as a sample to cut/paste off.
April 27, 2011 9:15 PM
mogramjo said...
Hey dummies, it's the 'abstract' of the long form on file. Do you understand what an 'abstract' is in relation to something irreplaceable that's on file? I doubt it. It's authentic and y'all are drooling morons, or almost nearly all. Too bad for you.
April 27, 2011 10:21 PM
作者：xilihutu 在 驴鸣镇 发贴, 来自 http://www.hjclub.org
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